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  • Terry Wigmore

Stay the Fu*k Out Of Ukraine!

Wars are seldom about people, their history, traditions, languages, literature, art or faith. Wars are about leadership clinging desperately to dogmatic ideologies and beliefs. In this case, what seems to be at the root is the belief that Putin, alone, knows what is right, and that he alone can fix it (where have we heard that before?)

Putin and his cronies, are willing to consume the national resources of the military, the people, the economy, and political currency and standing in the global community, to accomplish personal goals.

Leadership is often propped up by supporters: fellow ideologues, and those who are simply self-interested recipients of rewards-for- loyalty that Putin offers, but it is often sustained through a cult-like worship of the leader

Self-determination seems to be the fundamental right of any democracy. The use of force to quash this expression of the will of the people, especially when it is taking root in an independent sovereign nation, seldom leads to anything beyond imposing a veneer of compliance, covering temporarily, a rage that will not be quiet. It will remain restless and seek its own release, as all empires have learned.

Give peace a chance. Suggestion: Let Alexei Nevalny out of prison. He is one who is worthy to sit at a table for a discussion with Zelensky. Let's see what can happen when leaders who really represent the will of their people sit down to talk.

Stay the Fu*k out of Ukraine? Too late for that advice, but not too late to pack up and leave. We can talk about paying for the damages after you vacate the premises.

and I offer this as the perspective required to make that change

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Mijanou ter Braak
Mijanou ter Braak

Hey Terry

Thanks for your e-mail. I do check out this site from time to time ;-) I have to admit I don't really agree with your post this time. I know western media makes Putin look like a real bad guy, but after all it is not him but the NATO that has been waging war for decades....not Putin. Having witnesed with utter sadness how they destroyed country after country....Iraq, Lybia, Syria, yugoslavia, Palestina (indirect) etc etc...wars in almost every country in South America by the US army....I don't believe a word no more from whatever they write in the newspapers here.

I think war is horrible, but if NATO would be installed around Russia they will make war…

Terry Wigmore

Differences of opinion are important, because discussions usually add perspectives and information that help foster understanding. Thanks for contributing to the discussion, Mijanou, even though we are in fundamental disagreement.

Some other points to consider, from my perspective, and you are free to offer evidence to disagree:

  1. I will always take an actor with no political experience over a KGB killer with no political experience, without question, as a worthy leader. Heart makes a difference. Rhetoric and actions reveal the intent of the heart. No comparison.

  2. Though the US is not without reproach in some of it's actions, nothing compares with Bucha and Mariupol, and that is just what we know about so far. Time will, no doubt, reveal more…

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